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Terrell Stoglin Is The Turtle

My high school had a really bad basketball team with a pretty good player named Tom Carroll. He was top of our class, and we’d been on a youth league team together before that. He was the best then too.

There was no second-best. It was Tom, who would score in droves, and eight or nine kids like me, who couldn’t buy a bucket. There were bits and pieces on our roster, but it was pretty much Tom against the league. We didn’t win many games.

It wasn’t that Tom was a ball hog, or that he took bad shots, it was that we were not good, and the games we won were thanks to the one player we had. Which brings me to Terrell Stoglin.

Maryland’s guard averages an ACC-best 21 points. He gets a few rebounds and a couple of assists too, but mostly he just scores lots of points on lots of shots. He pumped in 28 on 21 against Va. Tech today, and only once this season has he scored under 14. The ACC’s second-leading scorer, UNC’s Harrison Barnes, averages 17. Maryland’s second-leading scorer, senior Sean Mosley, averages 10.

And it’s the way that Stoglin scores, with a relentless onslaught of quick-trigger jumpers, dribble-drive penetration, tear-drop floaters and heat-check threes, with a wrong hand and resolve that sets him apart. The Terps aren’t very good either, you see.

If not for Stoglin, they might be awful. He is the Turtle, but he doesn’t get that sort of recognition, and certainly not Greivis Vasquez-type attention. Maybe because his name isn’t Greivis, even if Greivis never scored quite like this, not even as a senior.

Of course, Greivis passed the ball and ran the point, which is something Stoglin may want to work on. But he is just a sophomore, the underclass MVP of a 13-7 (3-3) team.

They have a shot at the Tournament, but it’s not really about this season. It’s about the next two years, along with sophomore guard Pe’Shon Howard, the freshman frontcourt of Nick Faust, Ashton Pankey and Alex Len and whichever recruits come down the line. They should grow together. They could be a contender, or not. Tom Carroll always deserved better.

D.C. sports fan and digital media guy that's been doing this since 2004. Once threw a football further than Chris Cooley.



  1. Terps77

    January 28, 2012 at 10:34 PM

    Funny you bring up Vasquez, it was just about this time in Vasquez’s career he stopped being a totally obnoxious and foolish player, at least to me, and started becoming Maryland basketball’s heart and soul. Stoglin doesnt have Grevis’s charisma, which is why he will never be as beloved of the people, but Stoglin has all of of Vasquez’s machismo and confidence. Even as a sophomore, hes fun to watch and starting to get smarter with the ball. This is the time of a sophomore season stars should begin to bloom, Im excited to see how great Turgeon can push him to be.

    PS Turgeon looks like a young Jim Calhoun?

  2. Jamie Mottram

    January 28, 2012 at 11:57 PM

    Stoglin doesnt have Grevis’s charisma, which is why he will never be as beloved of the people, but Stoglin has all of of Vasquez’s machismo and confidence.

    Well said, Terps.

  3. Ketel on Rocks

    January 29, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    Stoglin and this terps team are very likeable for a team with, like, 50 guards and one big man. Also, once Turgeon gets settled, it looks like he’ll be a pretty good hire. I’d be bullish on this team’s future.

    If that wanker Jordan Williams didn’t choose career suicide, they actually might have been a little dangerous this year. Oh, did anyone notice he’s been toiling away in the D League?

  4. Jamie Mottram

    January 29, 2012 at 6:51 PM

    Would love to see where this team would be had Williams stuck around. Padgett and Pankey averaging 15 and 11 is huge, though. Wasn’t expecting that.

  5. Fushezzi

    January 30, 2012 at 9:03 AM

    Greenberg said it best: “Stoglin, he plays for both teams. The guy made tough, tough shots, but he also [took] some shots that gave us a chance to get back in the game.”

    Best Case Scenario: Stoglin’s game matures to the point where he knows when to shoot and when to allow everyone else get involved (ala Greivis), and the team is all the better for it.

    Worst Case Scenario: Marlo comes down from Baltimore telling Stogs it’s all about him and Stoglin turns into a selfish chucker (ala Kyle Watson from Above the Rim). The team implodes, Marlo makes Stoglin throw the Duke game and then one of the Wayans brothers kills Marlo at a nightclub. Maryland goes back on probation all because of some bizarre real-life morphing of Above The Rim, The Wire and Maryland Basketball.

  6. John

    January 30, 2012 at 10:43 AM

    Stoglin can score. He is a scorer. There is a difference between players and scorers. Bird and Magic were amazing passers and nobody ran the break better than them. They are the standard. Vasquez became a good passer later in his MD career. He started setting guys up & making others around him better.

    If you are just a scorer and everything around you looks like 9 year old girls league basketball, you are not a good player. Remember GilChrist? Scorer; not player…

  7. Jamie Mottram

    January 30, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    Of course I hope Stoglin becomes a better player, but his scoring shouldn’t be undervalued; I don’t know who else would put up the points if not for him.

  8. wickedpixels

    January 30, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    Greivis himself had similar thoughts. Did you see what @greivisvasquez Tweeted on Saturday?

    Stoglin is a good player but he needs to understands that a PG makes guys better around him..

    He is a great score! if he understands what a PG needs to do, he would have a chance to make it!

  9. Jamie Mottram

    January 30, 2012 at 12:44 PM

    I saw those Greivis tweets after writing this, actually. Love the bilingualarity of his feed.

  10. terpsball

    January 30, 2012 at 8:19 PM

    Anyone down on any part of Stoglin’s game needs to pay more attention. Not one other player on the team has shown the ability to score regulary or knock down an open jump shot. As far as Stoglin being criticized as a point guard, he rarely brings the ball up the court and when he does it is often because the defense is overplaying him and Pe’shon struggles to get him the ball, thus he takes it up to create space. Also, if you watch the games, you would notice every play is designed to get the ball in Stoglin’s hands as a result of the fact that he is the only one who can score. If we get a real pg, and this team matures, and we add shaq cleare, I think you will see a more well rounded Stoglin.

  11. John

    January 31, 2012 at 9:46 AM

    How can division one ACC basketball players not be able to score? It might be because guys that take bad shots and dribble with their heads down incessantly (like Stoglin) get their teammates out of rhythm because they take shots when they shot be feeding the open man. Terpsball must have been a gunner back in the day.

  12. terpsball

    January 31, 2012 at 11:58 AM

    Watch the team and you will see how they have an inability to score. First off, recognize when a guy other than stoglin has had back to back good scoring performances all year. They do not create their own shots well, they can not hit a wide open jumper, well MOsley can every other game and couldn’t in the past years. They play without confidence and pass up open shots. Without stoglin, this team would barely ever score. Also, to blame Stoglin for putting his head down and that being why others dont score, further ignores the fact that he DOES NOT bring the ball up and if you watch the offense run, every play is designed to get him the ball. But I guess turgeon does that because he knows everyone can score because its ACC basketball.

  13. John

    January 31, 2012 at 2:28 PM

    I never said he brings the ball up so I’m not sure where that came from. Secondly, he dribbles with his head down on the wing and DOES NOT SEE the open man. The second he touches the ball in three point position his head is down. (go take another look) Looking at stats only identifies the lack of distribution within the offense. No coach wants this situation. Turgeon has come out publicly and said he tries to limit the bad shots Stoglin takes. Guaranteed- if Md had any type of big man, Stoglin would be forced to feed the post and his precious stats will go down.

    My point is: Md cannot improve as a TEAM the way this guy plays. I could care less about his personal stats. It’s about WINNING not stats, buddy. I guess Maryland fans forgot…

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