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What Grossman Starting Over McNabb Means for the Redskins

Rex Grossman will start in place of Donovan McNabb against the Cowboys on Sunday. On the surface, this seems simple enough: The Shanahans aren’t impressed with McNabb’s performance — nor should they be — and they think Rex gives them the best chance to win. And while wins don’t matter as far as playoffs are concerned, they matter to two coaches hoping to keep their jobs.

Whether the Redskins offense is better right now with Grossman or McNabb running it doesn’t matter for us, as fans. Because we shouldn’t care about how many meaningless wins the Skins can put together over the last three weeks. What matters is next season. And the one after that. If we want the future to look better than this abortion of a season, then it can’t include Donovan McNabb. He’s proven himself to be a shell of the star this team played against in Philly. He’s old, completely mediocre, and owed too much money if he stays. This isn’t a team that can win now. This is a team that needs to rebuild. McNabb can’t be part of that process.

That’s why starting Rex Grossman is good news for Skins fans. This move says something more than the Shanahans thinking Rex is the better QB; it says that Mike Shanahan isn’t committed to Donovan McNabb. It says that Shanahan wants to see what he has with Grossman. It says that maybe he doesn’t think McNabb can be the quarterback for this team now, and in the future.

Maybe Grossman shits the bed. He probably will. That’s not the point. Shanahan has already made a statement by doing this, and it’s a statement that gives us some tiny glimmer of hope about the future in an otherwise miserable 2010 season.

Former Managing Editor at UPROXX; former Senior Editor at @SBNation; former ska-zine editor, fan of bad sports teams and good beer.

42 Comments

42 Comments

  1. ben

    December 17, 2010 at 11:27 AM

    “This move says something more than the Shanahans thinking Rex is the better QB; it says that Mike Shanahan isn’t committed to Donovan McNabb.”

    Good.

    McNabb has looked good on the long ball this year, but everything else has looked terrible. Some of those short misses in the game last week (to wide open receivers) were just incredible.

    I just don’t see McNabb ever leading this team to the playoffs.

  2. Keith Cohen

    December 17, 2010 at 11:29 AM

    That is the dumbest article I have ever read. So your point is Skins fans should be happy that we are giving up on a 33 year old multiple time pro bowler with a proven record of winning because he has struggle playing behind the worst o-line in the league, with the worst recievers in the league, and undrafted rookies at running back? We should be happy?? I’ll be happy when they move the team to LA and we can get an expansion team, that’s what would really make me happy.

  3. Jamie Mottram

    December 17, 2010 at 11:29 AM

    Grossman outplaying McNabb would be hilarious. So would Grossman shitting the bed. Win-win!

  4. ben

    December 17, 2010 at 11:32 AM

    Speaking of win-win…

    If we win, I can make fun of Cowboys fans for beating them with Grossman.

    If we lose, I can say “Come on, we started Grossman”.

  5. reddrop50

    December 17, 2010 at 11:38 AM

    God how I yearn for a boring 8-8 season instead of this melodramatic soap opera BS.

  6. pearlbullets

    December 17, 2010 at 11:39 AM

    The only sad part about this decision, Snyder is still in charge of player personnel. I’m convinced the Shanahans never wanted McNabb to begin with, but Snyder forced the trade with the Philadelphia Eagles. The Redskins wasted another opportunity to rebuild the franchise.

  7. BathroomMartian

    December 17, 2010 at 11:40 AM

    I’ll believe that Shanahan is doing this to see what the Redskins have for the future when he cuts Roydell Williams and lets the young WRs play.

  8. ben

    December 17, 2010 at 11:41 AM

    @Keith

    Last week, I saw McNabb with plenty of time. The Bucs were challenging us to dink and dunk it down the field. If Mcnabb could hit a wide open 5-yard out pattern, we probably would have won that game.

    Also, if every other aspect if the team is so bad, why are we going to hang out hat on a 33 year old QB who looks like he is on his decline. How long is it going to take to fix all these issues?

    And don’t talk to me about past performance. By that rationale, maybe we should see if Elway is available. I mean, hey, he has two Super Bowls.

  9. Walter Johnson

    December 17, 2010 at 11:43 AM

    what the fuck..

  10. thighmaster

    December 17, 2010 at 11:46 AM

    maybe one day they’ll draft a real QB they can develop. Jason Campbell doesn’t count, and I’m glad he’s gone too

    Sunday should be fun, but is it 2011 yet?

  11. ravenmack

    December 17, 2010 at 11:50 AM

    I can’t disagree that McNabb has been a huge piece of shit this year, but starting Grossman is just gonna give Danny Boy the ammunition to dump the Shanahans after next year’s failed season. Nobody will ever be allowed to rebuild. Snyder is like the fat kid from Pee Wee’s Big Adventure who stole the bike, except in our situation, Snyder is crushing the bike, destroying it, fuck fuck fuck.
    I had never heard the “move the Skins to LA and get an expansion team” idea before. I kinda like that because now I don’t have to wish death upon Dan Snyder anymore.

  12. illformula

    December 17, 2010 at 12:03 PM

    Grossman vs Kitna

    Feel the excitement!!!

  13. 44ever

    December 17, 2010 at 12:03 PM

    Like the contrarian thought, but i don’t agree it’s “good news” for Skins fans. Giving 2 picks for what amounted to a 12 3/4 game tryout isn’t the way to get better. McNabb has been for us what he was for Philly the last couple years. Who is ASSESSING these players?!

    Not to mention yet ANOTHER mishandled personnel incident. Other players around the league (and in college) are watching this circus.

    I agree this sends a strong message. And the message is: If you care about your career, if you want to win games, stay FAR AWAY from the Washington Redskins. And this time around we can’t blame Vinny or Zorn. Same Sh!t Didd Day!

  14. joe

    December 17, 2010 at 12:13 PM

    McNabb has single handedly won games for us. Yeah, he’s lost a couple. But to put in GROSSMAN in hopes that they’ll do better is just ridiculous. I’m hoping this is all Shanahan head games.

  15. Puttz

    December 17, 2010 at 12:14 PM

    The Skins screwed up by trading for McNabb. He’s played like shit this year. You can’t keep him just because you traded two picks for him. Time to rebuild. Hopefully we stop trading away picks.

  16. horseydeucey

    December 17, 2010 at 12:24 PM

    So, apparently I don’t know what rock bottom means? Because these fuckers redefine it every goddamned week.

  17. pearlbullets

    December 17, 2010 at 12:42 PM

    @Joe

    What games did McNabb win single-handedly? Dallas game was won by DeAngelo Hall & Jason Garrett. Packers game won by Mason Crosby missing field goal & Landry interception. Bears game won by Jay Cutler & 4 interceptions. Titans game won by penalties in overtime. Eagles game McNabb was 8-19 125yds 1TD & 1 interception?????

  18. Keith Cohen

    December 17, 2010 at 12:44 PM

    @Ben
    Don’t talk about past performance? What else are we to measure on!? I admit he has been atrocious at times with his short accuracy, but REX GROSSMAN! CMON! 33 is not too old! Speaking of Elway…at age 33…blah blah blah, we all know this argument, and it is not necessarily relevant, but if he got the plug pulled on him at the same age…Just saying. Meanwhile McNabb did everything necessary to win that game, not saying he played great because clearly he didn’t, but if we had a useful FG unit, we would have won. It’s not like we are playing at Jax this week, I couldn’t care less about that game at this point. This is REDSKINS vs Cowboys! I have spent my whole life as a Skins fan, and this is just a slap in the face, throwing a game against the COWBOYS!? ARE YOU SERIOUS!? Prove me wrong Rex, prove me wrong.

  19. Mike Bradley

    December 17, 2010 at 1:06 PM

    McNabb is not the answer, nor is he the solution. Has the O-Line been garbage? YES. But I thought McNabb could run and avoid all that. The run-stop-run-fumble he had against the Giants proves he is washed up and just looking for one more payday. The Shanahans are also to blame. Torain has 158 in the first half and they completely went away from him in the 2nd. The continue to call pass plays for a QB who isn’t capable of executing them. This season was supposed to be different and yet it is just like the others. Allen, the Shanahans, McNabb, Portis, Rogers, Hall,etc.. all need to go. The best coach we had the last 10 or so years was Schottenheimer and he was given the boot becasue he actually made the players practice and earn their playing time.

  20. DarkHeart

    December 17, 2010 at 1:52 PM

    Can’t believe Kornheiser’s show was preempted so Andy and Kevin could take calls at 11am, instead of 12pm.

  21. The Derper

    December 17, 2010 at 1:52 PM

    F Tashard Choice
    F Jason Avant
    F Mason Crosby
    F Jay Cutler
    And F Rusty Smith

    If these losers had come through, we’d have top pick….

  22. deepvalue

    December 17, 2010 at 2:00 PM

    Cooley wide open. McNabb throws the ball on the ground. Game over. Next!

  23. ben

    December 17, 2010 at 2:49 PM

    I am amazed at the media and most fan response to this.

    People are crowing about this like we are a game back from first place or something.

  24. Dave H.

    December 17, 2010 at 2:50 PM

    My question is why he went after McNabb in the first place? Wasn’t the writing on the wall when Lurie and Reid were willing to give him up to a division rival? And why did we give away a 2nd and 3rd rounder for a 1 year rental?! Didn’t Shanahan know we didn’t have an OL to protect a 34 year old QB? If Sexy Rexy already knew the system, why not use him as a 1 year rental instead of dumping 2 top draft picks? Again, this is why YOU DON’T GIVE TOTAL CONTROL TO A COACH!!! And don’t tell me that Allen has ANYTHING to do with player/personnel. His mission was to improve Satan’s image and bring the alumni back into the fold. I’ll give him a 5 out of a 10 on that one. Shanahan brings in his kid to run this junk offense and takes the one thing the team had going, it’s defense, and turns it into the worst in the league. How is this retard any better than Zorn? And how does this improve the Skins over the next few seasons. It’s two more steps back. They should be 2-11. IMO, they are the WORST team in the NFL right now. Yes, Carolina would beat them!!!

  25. Kev29

    December 17, 2010 at 3:09 PM

    Chris – not a bad attempt at a positive spin on this. Perhaps using a headline like “NFL’s 25th ranked 2010 Passer Benched for Former Super Bowl Starter” would have helped.

    And now it looks like McNabb is done here for good.

  26. Keith Cohen

    December 17, 2010 at 3:11 PM

    @Ben
    Any true Skins fan knows the importance of an opportunity to sweep Dallas! It’s not about a playoff run! No way does Rex give us a better chance to beat Dallas, let him play Jax…futhermore, everyone knows what Rex can do, he’s been in the league, what, 8 years? I’d rather see Becksy.

  27. Chris Mottram

    December 17, 2010 at 3:25 PM

    Kev29: I’m not trying to spin anything. I really view this move as a positive for the team going forward.

  28. ben

    December 17, 2010 at 3:46 PM

    “No way does Rex give us a better chance to beat Dallas”

    Probably not. But we have lost 5 of our last 6. So I would say our chances at least stay the same.

  29. okaybowler

    December 17, 2010 at 3:48 PM

    It’s all a shit show anyways. Cambell, McNabb, Sex Cannon. It doesn’t matter. This entire organization blows top to bottom. I’d like to become a Ravens fan, but I’m too fucking stupid (Plus the sight of purple camo enrages me).

    But on a funnier note, I found this in the comments section of the Bog (the last one was incorrect and has been changed by me):

    “The Twelve Years Since Elway”
    (A Christmas Poem to Coach Shanny, 101-85, or 54%, since John Elway retired)

    In the first year since Elway
    Coach Shanny gave to me
    A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
    And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

    In the second year since Elway
    Coach Shanny gave to me
    A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
    A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
    And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

    In the third year since Elway
    Coach Shanny gave to me
    An eight loss eight win layoff (2001, 8-record, no playoffs)
    A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
    A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
    And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

    In the fourth year since Elway
    Coach Shanny gave to me
    No appearance in a playoff (2002, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
    An eight loss eight win layoff (2001, 8-record, no playoffs)
    A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
    A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
    And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

    In the fifth year since Elway
    Coach Shanny gave to me
    A wild card game defeat (2003, 10-6 record, 41-10 wild card loss)
    No appearance in a playoff (2002, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
    An eight loss eight win layoff (2001, 8-record, no playoffs)
    A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
    A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
    And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

    In the sixth year since Elway
    Coach Shanny gave to me
    A wild card loss repeat (2004, 10-6 record, 49-24 wild card loss)
    A wild card game defeat (2003, 10-6 record, 41-10 wild card loss)
    No appearance in a playoff (2002, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
    An eight loss eight win layoff (2001, 8-record, no playoffs)
    A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
    A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
    And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

    In the seventh year since Elway
    Coach Shanny gave to me
    A home championship wheezin’ (2005, 13-3 record, 34-17 home loss to Pittsburgh)
    A wild card loss repeat (2004, 10-6 record, 49-24 wild card loss)
    A wild card game defeat (2003, 10-6 record, 41-10 wild card loss)
    No appearance in a playoff (2002, 9-7 record, no playoffs)
    An eight loss eight win layoff (2001, 8-record, no playoffs)
    A wild card game shallacking (2000, 11-5 record, 21-3 wild card loss)
    A six win ten loss smacking (1999, 6-10 record, no playoffs)
    And no chance at the Lomardi Trophy

    Posted by: CommonSenseDude | December 17, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

  30. ben

    December 17, 2010 at 4:31 PM

    Wonder if % snaps McNabb takes plays into that 3rd or 4th round conditional pick in the next draft that we have to give Philly.

  31. Walter Johnson

    December 17, 2010 at 4:47 PM

    Fuck Kyle Shanahan that son of a bitch (literally).

  32. horseydeucey

    December 17, 2010 at 5:11 PM

    @Walter
    Which part of the sentence is to be taken literally? The first or the second?

  33. Walter Johnson

    December 17, 2010 at 5:17 PM

    Both. His Dad’s a bitch, and I fucked him in the bathroom at Mango Mikes last weekend. He’s a big whore. Don’t you DARE call me a fag. It’s insensitive to homos.

  34. jon kelman

    December 17, 2010 at 6:39 PM

    Couldn’t have said it better myself. Grossman isn’t good but moving away from mcnabb is a huge deal.

    This is def a win-win. I started my now yearly laughing at skins ineptitude about 2 weeks ago

  35. Walt Parker

    December 17, 2010 at 6:54 PM

    Wreck Grossman Sucks we all know it. What you got is a dud at back up quarterback. Shannhan Know this and I’m speaking straight from the heart. Losing to Dallas can cost you your job. Benching You could have benched him during the debacle when Vick did his thing. This evaluation crap is fine after Dallas, but skins fans hate Dallas and you will hear the noise come game day. It doesn’t matter what the records are it’s not preseason we deserve better and right now you behind the scene moves only gives reason to why we cant Albert to play. This is a bone head thought. If we get blown out the games it will be shanny must go

  36. DocJ

    December 17, 2010 at 9:17 PM

    Have a feeling that sexy rexy might not be back next year either. His 1 year plan didnt work, so back to the drawing board. Not sure how many on the offense will be back next year. Cooley, Banks, Armstrong, T. Williams, K. Williams, Torain, J. Brown….. If Grossman sucks it up next 2 games, maybe we will see Beck in the final game and Grossman on his way somewhere else. The more I see McNabb play, more I think that its unfair to place this season on K. Shanahan. McNabb makes some accurate throws in the redzone and to wide open receivers, we have a few more wins and McNabb keeps his job and isnt benched. He had his chance, blow it up and lets rebuild the bitch. Cut everybody over 29, except L. Fletcher.

  37. Chris Williams

    December 17, 2010 at 10:16 PM

    Fuck it. If the Redskins give up, I give up. Maybe I’ll give a shit again in April. I won’t stomach getting blown out the last 3 weeks to end the season.

  38. horseydeucey

    December 17, 2010 at 10:55 PM

    Can we play ‘where’s Dan Snyder trying to move the team to?’ It’s the only logical explanation to his reign of terror, and the only logical next step in the continuation of making life as miserable for Redskins fans as possible.

  39. Terps77

    December 18, 2010 at 2:24 AM

    REX GROSSMAN IS GOING TO START FOR THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS!

    Where is this franchise going?

  40. Terps77

    December 18, 2010 at 2:27 AM

    Walter Johnson: it’s only gay if youre the one catching…

    “Me, I don’t give a fuck. You know, a hole’s a hole. As long as there’s a little heat in there I don’t give a fuck.”

    Frank RIZZO!

  41. carlos

    December 18, 2010 at 9:00 AM

    I’m not sure why this makes you feel good. This franchise is hopelessly incompetent: it’s literally where HOF’ers go to prove that there past success was entirely context dependent. Gibbs 2.0 was a total failure. Shanahan 2.0 is clearly already a failure.

    Gee, think you should be skeptical when a division “rival” (you have to win a few games before the other side sees you as a rival) is willing to trade you their supposed STARTING QB?

    We traded 2 picks for this loser. Meanwhile, well-run franchises like the Pats shed coordinators every freaking year, and this year they are the best team in the league and have 2 picks in EACH OF THE FIRST THREE ROUNDS. shoot me now.

  42. tartar490

    December 18, 2010 at 9:35 AM

    i dont think this is a horrible move. we are out of the playoffs. we are gonna use the rest of this season to see what we have. Mcnabb has missed alot of open targets, so now its time to give rex a shot

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